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Post by 3mptylord on Fri Oct 02, 2009 10:06 am

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The twelve labours, inspired by both mythology and our unofficial mascot Dark Sylvania;

Nemean lionNemyonGuantletsWritten by Jeeves.
Lernaean hydraLernosDiademWritten by Jeeves.
Cerinean hindCerinaHelm
Erymanthian boarErymontAxe-hammerWritten by Jeeves.
Augean stablesAugoHelmWritten by Trixtor.
Stymphalian birdsStympho
Creten bullCretosMace
Mares of DiomedesTrace
Shield of HippolytaHippolytaRising Sun
Cattle of GeryonGeryon
Apples of the HesperidesLadonGolden Apple
CerberusCerberusStaff/Whip



Timeline of the Mythics' Quest;
• Grandeur, the gateway to the Mythics' Guild, must be appeased. The requirements for this section are merely the skill requirements for the quest, having completed the Legends' Quest and having a certain number of quest points. The plinth that Grandeur stands on has three icons connected by rivulets. You need them all to light up.
• Through the gateway you can see the image above, basically. Only, the warrior is also a statue and facing the other way. These thirteen statues are, in effect, Hercules and the twelve labours. Accompanying them is a fourth character, imposing as a thirteenth labour - Durial, our antagonist.
• "Herclues" will introduce the labours, and what they are for. It should be noted that the labours themselves, and Herclues, are irrelevant to the quest at the moment. Players can complete them now or later. It should also be noted that Hercules does not mention Durial, our 13th Labour. Trying to make him stick out.
• Each labour would be based on the labours from Greek Mythology. This is the guild of Mythics after all, and Greek wouldn't be the only source when we finally have access to the guild. "Completing a labour" involves retrieving a lost relic that has been hidden in your time. These tasks take place in both RuneScape, and bespoke instances.
• Durial requires three items; the Blades of Eleyon, the Cloak of Shadows and the Potion of Vulnerability. Each item will require utmost knowledge of RuneScape, as no requirements are officially given. This quest may seem long - but the labours aren't required at this point.
• After obtaining all three items for Durial he will exit the guild - returning to his own time. In the same cinematic, future-you will arrive; panting hysterically and cursing that he took too long (mentioning something about other future-yous and how he failed to improve... which you will also say).
• Future-you, though you don't know it yet, will tell you what you need to do next; which of the three labours you should complete. You require the Rising Sun, the Hydra's Diadem, and something defensive to counter the Blades of Eleyon. Future-you will also tell you what Durial's true intentions are.
• After having obtained these, your next mission is to activate the Chronarch's Throne, an altar capable of reversing the flow of time within the guild. *insert more on this segment*.
• Successfully rewinding time, you most exit the guild into the past and locate Durial. The fight will be epic... think Nomad, just harder (or perhaps not, Dark's still killing himself trying to kill Nomad). During this fight Durial will accuse you of being Guthix, among other interesting foods-of-thought.
• Return to the guild and fast-forward to the present. On your way to Grandeur, to speak with your future-self, you will notice two omens - Durial and yourself. Panicking, you run forward to try and stop yourself handing Durial the items. You will, of course, fail... and, well, you can probably see where I'm going.
• This segment is surprisingly easy, merely tell your past-you what to do.

The quest needs to end somewhere. Possibly when you exit the Guild and Grandeur's gargoyles will laugh at you, seemingly aware of you you'd just done. Or... the moment you return to the present it's quest-over, with aiding past-you merely being a required postal-script. I suppose that's the only issue with having a quest with no true questmaster.

February 14th, 2010;
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Passed the Flames of Lloigh-enn, is the pathway to the Guild of Mythics. By now you have already passed through Grandeur, the great archway. Durial stands blockading at the end of the guarded walkway.

Durial appears to be one of 13 statues that line the pathway to the Guild. Players may complete all or none of the 12 statues before Durial. Durial requires a potion, a blade and a cloak obtained from yet-to-be-decided locations. Three of the twelve statues will prove useful for the later part of the quest, so if you do them before Durial it will save time doing them afterwards. After having collected Durial's items, he will leave to his own time and our futureself will become the obstruction to the guild. If you haven't already done the required labours, our futureself will tell us which to do.

*insert timetravel section*
February 13th, 2010;
Spoiler:
Thus far we'd only actually come up with guildlore and items we wished to include in the quest. The actual layout for how/why the items were obtained kept changing so Jeeves and I didn't feel bad coming up with a new reasoning. The following also adds an actual guild-set requirement for entry of which there wasn't one before hand.

The Mythics' Guild refers to the entirety of the area within the guild, excluding the path. In that, not specifically a building. This comment here is purely so we have some fixed terminology.

The path between the gate and the guild exists out of sync - almost in real-time, but almost in guild-time. Aligning the path are twelve statues; twelve unique statues. These statues represent the Labours (based on Greek Mythology). All Mythics must complete the Labours in order to enter the guild. Durial stands at the end of the path, observing our progress and awaiting the time that we finish the trials and become useful to him (for until we can actually enter the guild, we can't interact with him beyond words - not good when he needs items from us). Why us? Imagine that scene in films where the main character is nearly still in the centre of focus and life is just zooming passed? That was Durial until he saw us. Something about us stuck out.

Though not accurate with the loading screen, a thirteenth statue stands in the middle of the path immediately when you enter. This statue will introduce you to the Labours. He will inform you that something has been removed from each of the statues and places in your time and it is your task to recover it - Guarding each piece is an avatar of the statue. Once you have recovered all twelve items, you move on to Durial (the thirteenth labour as far as we're concern) - "My missing pieces will require... more creativity." The Rising Sun could easily be one of the artefacts we collect in the first part.

Players should note that the centre statue does not mention a 13th. Our futureselves will replace Durial as a roadblock to the guild. What's required to traverse time is still to be decided.

Any of this could be rearranged. I proposed that each of the twelve items could be a reward - but I then thought that it might be more interesting if that was optional, something post-quest. Or is RFD a good theme? Are twelve relics too many to be a required part of the quest?
October 1st, 2009;
Spoiler:
Durial wants to stop Guthix from remodelling the world into Gielinor, which inevitably destroys all that Durial holds dear. Unknowing of the task, we aid Durial in collecting three items - believing this was the initiation to the Mythics' Guild - the blade of Eleyon, the cloak of Shadows and the Vulnerability Potion (made from the bloodyield, pure ectoplasm and an un-chosen solid that would reflect upon the mind in some way - boiled in hellfire and bathed in starlight).

Upon giving Durial these items, he exists the guild. Of course, Durial was not from our time and left the guild into the 0th Age. As there were no repercussions of our actions, it is to be assumed that was succeeded in rectifying what we've done. However, that's just the optimists way of looking at things. In the present, we haven't yet done anything. But we are not alone. During the second part of the quest wherein we must collect countermeasures to our previous toils, the main personality is our future-self - however, we don't learn this until later, either. The only decided item that we would require to collect was the Rising Sun.

After obtaining these items, we are then required to return to the past in order to fight Durial and prevent him from succeeding. To do this, we must unlock the chamber of fate that resides in the centre of the guild. The guildmasters, the wraiths, will not help you and you will only have the aid of your futureself. He instructs you that their is one additional item that you require, and one that you have held before - the Enchanted Key. To activate the key within the chamber of fate, three present-tense Mythics must stand about the plinth and will it to work - ourselves being one, we must convince the another two to help us. I think the Wise Old Man was decided as one of said Mythics, it's possible that Bob the Cat could be our second (and the hint towards this would be Robert the Strong having a chin wag with us during the quest).

Within the past, some epic fight must occur. Durial will believe us to be Guthix, having traversed time, and will fight us over that though. At one point he will claim that even if we are not Guthix now, we will become "Guthix". Success is required to further the quest, but death applies as with any quest. After defeating Durial we hear a voice echo within our head - to be speculated as Guthix.

Your quest is over. However, there is an additional segment to the quest (sort of like the wish list) where we can aid our past selves complete the quest. This is required so has to keep the flow of time in flux - as we were helped by ourselves, we must return the favour.



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Re: Mythics: Stagnant Discussion

Post by Ruy112 on Fri Feb 12, 2010 6:04 pm

Welcome anyway!

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Re: Mythics: Stagnant Discussion

Post by Jeeves on Sat Feb 13, 2010 4:42 am

I forget, did we actually have any of the parts of the quest written or was it all still in the idea stage?
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Re: Mythics: Stagnant Discussion

Post by Ruy112 on Sat Feb 13, 2010 5:28 am

I had some part written, someone wanted to make the Shadow Cloak, but we didn't like the start, so I offered to do something, but the thread died before you commented on it Tongue
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Re: Mythics: Stagnant Discussion

Post by Jeeves on Sat Feb 13, 2010 6:50 am

Wow..reading back through the old thread sure was nostalgic.
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Re: Mythics: Stagnant Discussion

Post by Ruy112 on Sat Feb 13, 2010 6:58 am

Ya, it was good times. But there is still tons of work to be done here. Now someone just need to pull Ark Von Doom to from the Roleplay forum.
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Re: Mythics: Stagnant Discussion

Post by Dark Avorian on Sat Feb 13, 2010 7:00 am

*hands ruy a tranquilizer gun and a guide to Roleplaying*
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Re: Mythics: Stagnant Discussion

Post by Ruy112 on Sat Feb 13, 2010 7:02 am

I do not dare enter the Roleplay forums, I tried twice, got mocked twice, please do not force me back there. It is surrounded by barbed iron walls, I am not going back there! They are mean!
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Re: Mythics: Stagnant Discussion

Post by 3mptylord on Sat Feb 13, 2010 9:46 am

Just jump my boy! And by jump I mean short-distance teleport. Wink

Yeah, I just had a quick flick through... nostalgia indeed.

So, can anyone think of a good place to start?

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Re: Mythics: Stagnant Discussion

Post by Dark Avorian on Sat Feb 13, 2010 11:30 am

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Re: Mythics: Stagnant Discussion

Post by Dark Avorian on Sat Feb 13, 2010 12:00 pm

anyway...

We have

Potion -
Cloak -
Sword -
???
Battle back in time -
Guild -
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Re: Mythics: Stagnant Discussion

Post by Jeeves on Sat Feb 13, 2010 12:01 pm

I think the first step is to try and find every bit of actual quest we've written and compile it just to see what we have and what we still need. Then, just list what else we need, assign folks to it, and let the writing commence!
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Re: Mythics: Stagnant Discussion

Post by Jeeves on Sat Feb 13, 2010 12:04 pm

Potion - I know I wrote the Bloodyield and the Pure Ectoplasm bits. I think we still had the nightshade, the starlight, and the hellfire left.
Cloak - Ruy wrote most of this, I think
Sword - Nothing, as far as I know
??? - There was something else, I think
Battle back in time - Nothing
Guild - Nothing besides concepts
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Post by Dark Avorian on Sat Feb 13, 2010 12:13 pm

Can i make a request? NOT ANOTHER SWORD!
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Post by Jeeves on Sat Feb 13, 2010 12:17 pm

Weren't we going to do something with the Sword of Elyeon? Or did we scrap that?
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Post by Dark Avorian on Sat Feb 13, 2010 12:21 pm

Mace of Elyeon? B-axe of Elyeon?
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Post by Jeeves on Sat Feb 13, 2010 12:22 pm

I think it should be some completely unexpected weapon...Throwing Knives of Elyeon.
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Re: Mythics: Stagnant Discussion

Post by Dark Avorian on Sat Feb 13, 2010 12:35 pm

Throwing axes would be less expected
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Post by Jeeves on Sat Feb 13, 2010 12:39 pm

I think that could work. The legendary Lost Throwing Axes of Elyeon. And each one could be its own miniquest.
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Re: Mythics: Stagnant Discussion

Post by 3mptylord on Sat Feb 13, 2010 8:59 pm

I never said it was a sword, I said it was the Blades of Eleyon. They are, in effect, thrown melee weapons. Tongue

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Re: Mythics: Stagnant Discussion

Post by Dark Avorian on Sat Feb 13, 2010 9:49 pm

It would indeed be interesting if there were say...3 blades located at different places

The weapons would (if we ever got them, or for use in durial fight) be three boomerang like projectiles, each has an attack cycle of three clicks, so if you imagine each hyphen in this to be .6 s (a click) then here is how hte weapon would change base don number of blades

1 blade: Attack---Attack---Attack
2 blades: Attack-Attack--Attack-Attack--Attack-Attack--
3 blades: Attack-Attack-Attack-Attack-Attack-Attack (basically throwing knives)
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Re: Mythics: Stagnant Discussion

Post by 3mptylord on Sat Feb 13, 2010 11:25 pm

At present Eleyon's blades are chain daggers/daggertails, although I like the idea that the player doesn't have to collect all the pieces for the actual quest [although if there's a pair or chaindaggers then that could be something?]. The blades would be held a cut-out hilt [gap in the blade] and the blade itself resembles a huge caricature dagger. When in combat the blade separates from the hilt and shoots out on a chain. Swinging it around like helicopter blades, veering forward like a whip, etc. Even swinging your arms around parallel to your body and having the blade come down on your enemy. Grin

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Re: Mythics: Stagnant Discussion

Post by Jeeves on Sun Feb 14, 2010 12:31 am

Okay, I remember that now. I seem to remember comparing it to God of War or Prince of Persia or something...
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Re: Mythics: Stagnant Discussion

Post by 3mptylord on Sun Feb 14, 2010 2:12 am

Both, I think. Tongue

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Re: Mythics: Stagnant Discussion

Post by trixtor on Sun Feb 14, 2010 10:25 am

It's nice to see Mythics' quest back. Before we do any work on the actual quest, I suggest we create a full outline of what will be done in the quest. For example, we should compile a "timeline" of when the events of the quest take place. Of course, this is only if Mythics' quest isn't supposed to be completed along the lines of RFD. In that case, we should at least decide on the items needed.
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Re: Mythics: Stagnant Discussion

Post by 3mptylord on Sun Feb 14, 2010 10:32 am

Indeed we should. Grin

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Re: Mythics: Stagnant Discussion

Post by trixtor on Sun Feb 14, 2010 10:35 am

I would say that the first event in the quest is meeting Durial and "volunteering" to obtain the items that he needs.
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