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Post by 3mptylord on Sat Jun 12, 2010 11:43 pm

First topic message reminder :

To continue from one of Dark Avorian's threads (which I couldn't find) we should rebirth the Suggestions Forum! How hard could it be? We have near to a dozen semi-active members - that's easily enough to repopulate a forum. Wink

Everyone post a stub/snippet of a manageable and realistic suggestions. Then we need merely muster some complete suggestions and post 'em on the RCF! Maybe even have a tag that we use so they're all recognisably ours; [tst]? Smile

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Re: Let's rebirth the Suggestion Forum!

Post by 3mptylord on Tue Jun 15, 2010 6:24 am

I love that song. Grin

I even have a tshirt with it on. Tongue

Also - I haven't proposed any ideas, so how is my non-idea correct above no-one else's non-existent ideas.

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Re: Let's rebirth the Suggestion Forum!

Post by Ruy112 on Tue Jun 15, 2010 6:46 am

Why don't we just start out with discussing a smithing fix? Tongue

All ideas welcome, just discussion Tongue
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Re: Let's rebirth the Suggestion Forum!

Post by 3mptylord on Tue Jun 15, 2010 6:52 am

I like 225's means of compressing the skill more than my own. Grin

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Re: Let's rebirth the Suggestion Forum!

Post by Ruy112 on Tue Jun 15, 2010 7:33 am

Post a thread and we'll take it from there Tongue
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Re: Let's rebirth the Suggestion Forum!

Post by 3mptylord on Tue Jun 15, 2010 7:52 am

Basically my smithing thread, only instead of each item being made available at level increments; a batch of items. Plus a good system for wear 'n' tear. Smile

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Re: Let's rebirth the Suggestion Forum!

Post by 3mptylord on Tue Jun 15, 2010 11:13 pm

The problem is... how do we involve Dungeoneering now? Where that 225's other idea? Tongue

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Re: Let's rebirth the Suggestion Forum!

Post by 3mptylord on Wed Jun 16, 2010 3:41 am

...well, that's assuming we give into the peer pressure that we actually need to care about Dungeoneering and have to include. Not that I don't like it, but... why do we actually NEED to include it outside the game. It would be nice to and it does seem like a waste of resources not to... but yeh. :L

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Re: Let's rebirth the Suggestion Forum!

Post by Dark Avorian on Wed Jun 16, 2010 4:23 am

Agreed.
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Post by 3mptylord on Wed Jun 16, 2010 4:36 am

Agreed that we should or shouldn't? Wink

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Re: Let's rebirth the Suggestion Forum!

Post by Dark Avorian on Wed Jun 16, 2010 4:42 am

shouldn't
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Re: Let's rebirth the Suggestion Forum!

Post by 2---2-5 on Wed Jun 16, 2010 4:45 am

3mptylord wrote:...well, that's assuming we give into the peer
pressure that we actually need to care about Dungeoneering and have to
include. Not that I don't like it, but... why do we actually NEED to
include it outside the game. It would be nice to and it does seem like a
waste of resources not to... but yeh. :L


I want
those items implemented simply for the sheer amount of new, useful,
things they would add to most skills. Combat gear alone seems like it
could potential balence a lot, more so for magic and range branch of the
system. Not to mention that Smithing, crafting and fletching would
receive items from that.


And on my smithing table, the
orginal idea for 'batches' was pix's.



that all aside, I
really do not think that a smithing thread should be the thread we need
to create....there are 3 main ones, Empty's, Night's (ye old smithy,
something like that) and mine....plus countless others. Not to mention
Jagex seems to already have something planned and all we can do now is
see if any of those threads influenced anything (Its interesting to note
they all suggest some level changes). It might just be a waste to
create one atm....




Constuction, I can support
that....even if they have a planned update, suggestion new rooms or
features still sounds like it could help.

Dungeons needs
improvement, monsters need to be higher leveld/tougher.
The rooms
for it (or new ones) need to be bigger.

Ideas for rooms

Farm
-should
be obvious
--if not a room limit, but a patch limit...such as no
more then 2 herb patches
of course it should look.
(Should work
like farmville instead of patches, in the sense of customizing)


...I
have other rooms...but can't suggestion them all.
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Re: Let's rebirth the Suggestion Forum!

Post by Dark Avorian on Wed Jun 16, 2010 4:49 am

So let's list say...10 things we like on teh forums, polish and then hurl them into the mix...

Personally I'll help polish my DIY PVP Idea.
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Re: Let's rebirth the Suggestion Forum!

Post by 3mptylord on Wed Jun 16, 2010 5:00 am

Wait - steal other peoples ideas and improve them?

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Re: Let's rebirth the Suggestion Forum!

Post by Dark Avorian on Wed Jun 16, 2010 5:19 am

Our forums dimwit...
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Post by 3mptylord on Wed Jun 16, 2010 5:20 am

I didn't think we had 10 ideas :L

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Re: Let's rebirth the Suggestion Forum!

Post by Dark Avorian on Wed Jun 16, 2010 5:35 am

the first three parts of my PvP Suggestion. If someone coudl edit them for grammar and add some of those flashy symbol flourish borders to the titles that's be great.

Spoiler:
PVP World Upgrades: DIY and Missions

When PvP worlds were first mentioned and released, people loved the idea. Discussions raged across the forums about the many cool places that battles could play out. They discussed the many different places that one could fight. It was supposed to be revolutionary. Guess what? It wasn’t. Jagex and the forumers made a mistake. Runescape, although supposedly a roleplaying game, is about money and skills, and guess what? Having massive clan battles in Meyerditch is great for roleplaying, but not so good for anything else. Thus I propose a new glorious battlefield upon which to test our skills: Specialty PvP Worlds.

Specialty PvP worlds as I imagine them would have three core features. First, they would be DIY worlds. The only way to get an item in these worlds is to make it yourself or loot it from a player or a monster’s corpse. Second, missions would be instituted, allowing you to perform certain tasks for rewards, but they have to be done entirely within the DIY world, making it much more…interesting. Third, there would only be 1-2 F2P and 1-2 P2P worlds, meaning there will be a hell of a lot more people.

Of course, a question remains. How will this be incentivized? I intend to answer that throughout this suggestion.

Table of Contents
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1.) Intro + TOC
2.) DIY World Mechanics and basic principals
3.) XP Modification
4.) Missions: The Basics
5.) Missions: Examples
6.) Missions: Rewards
7.) Malignant Monstrosities
8.) Strange Occurences
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DIY Worlds: The Basics

Those who enter the dark worlds of DIY PvP will find themselves stripped of all save their own inherent skills. Money and equipment will not avail you here, the demons who guard this plane insure that. Alone, with only their wits and talents (though those can be incredible) to help them they must fight tooth and nail to survive. If they do…they will be richly rewarded.

The basic mechanic, which I have to admit I stole from a thread I saw years ago, is that there is no trading or interacting of any sort. The only exception is certain specialty weapon stores such as the main dragon weapon suppliers will be open with limited stocks. Banks may also be partially available, however you have only 10 spaces and they are distinct from your main bank.

Upon entering a DIY world, you will be spawned with any equipment you had the last time you were there, into a random location. Your goal is singular: survive. If you die, all items on you are lost, and you will respawn in a random location. Your location in DIY PvP is independent of your location in the main game worlds.

If you kill another player, all of their items are yours to loot, the only exception is untradeables. It should be noted however that the DIY PvP equipment will not transfer through death unaffected. DIY PvP equipment will become “bloodstained” and will be locked into the world. (all this jargon is explained later).

As said before, the idea is simple: survive
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XP Modification

Those who engage in the vicious combat of PvP will find that the strange and twisted gods who rule these worlds will augment the minds of the most vicious warriors, allowing them to learn quicker. Those who successfully pull of a mass slaughter will find themselves capable of learning many new skills quite rapidly. The vicious warriors who spend the greater portion of their time on these dark planes have a name for the favor of the dark gods: Blood tokens. Marks of favor from the gods, blood tokens are a powerful gift, but the gods will not assist you if you fail to live up to their standards.

Blood tokens are points, they are not physical objects. For some kills in a DIY zone you will receive a blood token. There is a 10% chance of receiving them from any kill (although not from anyone you’ve killed in the last 15 minutes). If an enemy has 3 or more bloodtokens there is an 100% chance of receiving one. After killing a player on a DIY PvP world, all xp gained will be multiplied by the number of DIY tokens you have. However, those with 7 or more blood tokens will find that revenants and other beasts will spawn around them, that all beasts will do their damnedest to kill them, and that other players will be drawn to them.

Anyone with 7 or more blood tokens will be indicated by an arrow on other player’s minimaps. how far away another player can detect you is determined by your number of tokens and theirs. Tokens can also be sacrificed to double the speed gained in non- PvP pursuits for a total of 30000 extra xp. While in use like this a token is considered active and will still draw beasts and players but will not contribute to xp from defeating those players who may come and hunt you.

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Re: Let's rebirth the Suggestion Forum!

Post by Ruy112 on Wed Jun 16, 2010 5:43 am

Your PVP idea
Mythics' (Won't be done, but we can try Tongue)
Smithing
I'd personally like to see Constitution/Combat re-balance
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Re: Let's rebirth the Suggestion Forum!

Post by 3mptylord on Wed Jun 16, 2010 7:23 pm

I don't think we should spend too much time on quests initially, we only get bored half way through and it'd be a waste of time. Tongue

Smithing first just 'cause we have a lot of ideas. Grin

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Re: Let's rebirth the Suggestion Forum!

Post by TATORZ on Thu Jun 17, 2010 12:01 am

Definitely.
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Post by Ruy112 on Thu Jun 17, 2010 3:38 am

Agreed^^

*tries to come up with a smithing idea*
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Re: Let's rebirth the Suggestion Forum!

Post by Dark Avorian on Thu Jun 17, 2010 5:26 am

*turns off glorious trumpet fanfare CD*

Okay. Let's go through the forums, catalog the ideas that are near completion, polish, and post. Don't try and create another group project...that is our failure.

My armour augments idea

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Think Draconic Visage on a much larger scope, Imagine if most monsters had a "unique drop" that was some part of their corpse, was rare, and could be added to equipment for bonuses and abilities...

Unicorn Skull/Black Unicorn Skull
Proposed Smithing/Crafting level: 40/45
Item to be augmented: Innoculation Brace
Effect: Infinite Immunity to disease, and for the Black Unicorn Skull you cannot be poisoned until the poison effect you are under wears off

Jungle Snake Fangs
Smithing/Crafting level: 50
Item to be Augmented: Green Spikey Vambraces
Effect: Poisons those in combat with you for 1 damage

Elf Skull
Smithing/Crafting level: 70 Crafting
Item to be Augmented: Mystic Staves (all types)
Effect: Increased Mage Bonus

Ogre Ribcage/Jogre Skull
Smithing/Crafting level: 60
Item to be Augmented: Granite Body / Granite Helm
Effect: Increased Defense Stats

Scorpion Carapace
Smithing/Crafting level: 30
Item to be Augmented: Wizard Robes
Effect: Increased Melee defences

Aquanite Light
Smithing/Crafting level: 80
Item to be Augmented: Farseer Helm/Archer Helm
Effect: Acts as light source, increased stat, all attackers will have prayer drain as if they had -10 prayer boost added to their current equipment boost

Staring Visage (Cockatrice/Basilisk)
Smithing/Crafting level: 75
Item to be Augmented: Mirror Shield
Effect: Slightly drains enemy stats...negated by mirror shield

Shaikahan Pelt
Smithing/Crafting level: 85
Item to be Augmented: Splitbark Body
Effect: Increased Melee Defenses

Kalphite Carapace (From Queen)
Smithing/Crafting level: 95
Item to be Augmented: Dragon Chain
Effect: Becomes a piece of insanely powerful mage gear

Wallasalki Tusks
Smithing/Crafting level:65
Item to be Augmented: Seercull
Effect: Special Drains 75% of energy and removes 110% of hit from mage level

Lesser demon horns/Greater demon Flesh/black demon flesh
Smithing/Crafting level: 67/72/77
Item to be Augmented: Black and Red Mystic Hat/Bottom/Robe-top
Effect:Looks like a small demon, weighs -3kg total, has better stats

Turoth Hide
Smithing/Crafting level:57
Item to be Augmented: Dragon square shield
Effect: Gives extra defences against those not using appropriate slayer weapons (maybe like 10-20% extra)

Kurask Horns
Smithing/Crafting level: 80
Item to be Augmented: Slayer Helm
Effect: 20% against task monsters, and increases stats

Dagannoth King Skull+Ribcage (Skull is placed on shoulderguard)
Smithing/Crafting level: 90
Item to be Augmented: Rockshell, Skeletal, or Spined top appropriately
Effect: Increased stats

Tormented Flesh
Smithing/Crafting level: 95
Item to be Augmented: Dragon Platebody
Effect: Makes it an awesome piece of Mage Gear

Ice Troll Flesh (male/female)
Smithing/Crafting level: 57
Item to be Augmented: Yak-Hide (bottom/top)
Effect: Increased Stats

Ice Wolf Pelt
Smithing/Crafting level: 70
Item to be Augmented: Neitiznot Helm
Effect: Resilience to Ice effects

Desert Wolf Pelt
Smithing/Crafting level: 40
Item to be Augmented: Desert Robes
Effect: Increased resilience to desert effect


Jeroenvt's Morytania Diary

Spoiler:
Morytania Achievement Diary


:~Easy Tasks


Kill a ghast in Mort Myre Swamp
Kill a citizen of Canifis using Wolfbane
Have Mazchna assign you a Slayer Task
Browse through Mazchna’s Slayer Shop
Buy a pickled brain from the Hair of the Dog Inn
Kill a Loar Shade
Make some Sacred Oil
Talk to the Mysterious Old Man in the Barrows area
Buy some Raw chicken from Rufus in his store in Canifis and cook it
Sacrifice some bones to the Ectofunctus
Claim 255 Ectotokens at the Ectofunctus
Do a Low-risk Temple Trek or Burgh de Rott Ramble
Travel to Dragontooth Island
Fill some druid pouches
Teleport to the Ectofunctus
Recharge your summoning points by the obelisk near the Slayer Tower
Kill a Banshee

:~Experienced Tasks

Kill a Bloodveld
Kill a Barrows Brother
Kill 5 Werewolves
Kill a Vampire and a Blood Worm in Mort Myre Swamp
Make a Flail of Ivandis, use it to kill a Vyrewatch and burn the Corpse in the Columbarium
Kill an Asyn Shade and burn it
Kill an Aberrant Spectre
Use the fairyring in Canifis
Do a Medium-risk Temple Trek or Burgh de Rott Ramble
Mine some Daeyalt Ore
Obtain a Salve Crystal from the Haunted Mine.
Brew some Moonlight Mead
Play a game of Skullball
Summon a Bloated Leach in Mort Myre Swamp
Light one of the torches in the Morytanian Swamp
Complete Mazchna's Slayer Challenge
Talk to the Odd Old Man in the Barrows area wearing Jennica's ring.

:~Hard Tasks

Burn 25 Vyrewatch Corpses
Complete a Barrows Run
Kill a Gargoyle
Complete the Werewolf Agility Course
Use the Fairyring in Mort Myre Swamp without a Dramen or Lunar Staff
Do a High-risk Temple Trek or Burgh de Rott Ramble
Cast the Teleport to Kharyll spell
Scale the Agility Shortcut near Paterdomus
Craft some Blood Runes
Climb all chains in the Slayer Tower

:~Elite Tasks

Cast all teleports in the Ancients Spellbook from Canifis
Cast Blood Barrage on a Mutated Bloodveld
Kill an Abyssal Demon
Make a Talon Beast in the Nature Grotto
Complete 5 Barrows runs without leaving the area

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REWARDS:

Morytania Necklace


The Necklace of Morytania is rewarded after you complete any of the Morytania Diaries.


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Necklace of Morytania 1


Rewarded by the Odd Old Man in the Barrows Area after completion of the Easy Diary

Effects:

¤Smaller chance of being hit by Ghasts in Mort Myre Swamp
¤You can use ectotokens as currency anywhere in Morytania
¤Higher chance of obtaining a rare drop(such as Abyssal Demon Head) from monsters in the Slayer Tower



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Necklace of Morytania 2

Rewarded by Mazchna in Canifis after completion of the Medium Diary


Effects:

¤All the effects of the previous Necklace
¤Blood Worms and Vampires in Mort Myre Swamp will become less likely to attack you
¤If you go into the Haunted Mine, this necklace acts as a lightsource on the lower floors, allowing you to get the Salve Crystal without needing to transport the Mushroom.
¤The cost of repairing Barrows Armour is depleted by 5%. This adds on to the Armour Stand in your POH.
¤The Necklace now gives a teleport to Burgh de Rott. This teleport can only be used 1 time a day.
¤You can use 2 items to be placed in the Druid pouch instead of 3


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Necklace of Morytania 3

Rewarded by Veliaf in the basement of the pub in Burgh de Rott after completion of the Hard Diary.

Effects:

¤All the effects of the previous Necklace
¤The Necklace now gives a teleport to the Myreque base in Meiyerditch. This can be used once per day.
¤All monsters within the Slayer Tower now give 3% more experience if they are your Slayer Task.
¤The chances of being spotted by a Vyrewatch whilst you’re in Meiyerditch are halved.


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Elite Necklace of Morytania

Rewarded by Veliaf in the basement of the pub in Burgh de Rott after completion of the Elite Diary

Effects:

¤All the effects of the previous Necklace
¤Unlimited teleports to the Meiyerditch Myreque base.
¤Unlimited teleports to Burgh de Rott.
¤Your Prayer will be drained at half it's usual speed when doing Barrows.
¤¤All monsters within the Slayer Tower now give 10% more experience if
they are your Slayer Task.

Dragon's Grave Robbing

http://suggestionteam.forumotion.net/activities-f22/grave-robbing-the-new-fun-o-t137.htm

Tatorz's Barb skills (is it up?)

http://suggestionteam.forumotion.net/activities-f22/new-barbarian-skills-t321.htm

Pest Control 2

http://suggestionteam.forumotion.net/activities-f22/pest-control-2-tower-defence-t541.htm

Wow...that's kinda most of what I found...
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Re: Let's rebirth the Suggestion Forum!

Post by Ruy112 on Thu Jun 17, 2010 5:28 am

Just posting to see if signature works Smile

EDIT: It doesn't why not?! It's not fancy at all Sad

EDITEDIT: It worked, I fail.

How would compressing smithing affect everything? Mining would have to have a compression too (85 mining -> Around 60 smithing (My opinion) -> 40 defence) Also, introducing higher armours and weapons is always risky Tongue
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Re: Let's rebirth the Suggestion Forum!

Post by 2---2-5 on Thu Jun 17, 2010 12:03 pm

Ruy112 wrote:How would compressing smithing affect everything? Mining would have to have a compression too (85 mining -> Around 60 smithing (My opinion) -> 40 defence) Also, introducing higher armours and weapons is always risky Tongue

Can read mine or 3mpty's thread on how we think it would work.

but yes

Smithing level adjusted

Mining level = lowest smithing level (if rune daggers need level 60, mininig level = 60)
Exp rates need to be adjusted
Alching rates need to be adjusted
quantity of spots need to be adjusted, no need to for rune to stay as rare as it is.

Fletching levels might need adjusting.

It is by no means an easy task, its very complex.....but i think its required.
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Re: Let's rebirth the Suggestion Forum!

Post by trixtor on Thu Jun 17, 2010 12:40 pm

I think that I may have realized why Jagex hasn't "fixed" smithing yet. They have said that there will be high (as in 90+) requirement weapons (and armor, presumably), smithing will have an overhaul to allow for these new materials.
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Re: Let's rebirth the Suggestion Forum!

Post by Ruy112 on Thu Jun 17, 2010 4:39 pm

Also... Could smithing increase to level 120?
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Re: Let's rebirth the Suggestion Forum!

Post by 3mptylord on Thu Jun 17, 2010 7:27 pm

Why's it 120 anyway? Why not 126 which is the highest level an single skill could achieve given them maximum experience? (thus a reward for all those 200mil exp'ers).

But no, I don't know. It promote not having a life far too much. Wink

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