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Post by MorbiusMonster Sat Apr 28, 2012 11:17 pm

So, let me get this straight...

Most of us here are either gay or bi?

Damn...
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Post by The Empty Lord Sat Apr 28, 2012 11:38 pm

I was actually going to make a joke about that but decided against it. xD
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Post by Slayer Noir Sun Apr 29, 2012 12:16 am

Seriously, am I the only straight guy here? Shocked
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Post by MorbiusMonster Sun Apr 29, 2012 1:16 am

Something the matter Slayer?

*softly strokes Slayer*

I didn't intend to create a gay pride thing here Slayer, but it seems to have resulted in everyone coming out or revealing to be gay or bi.

Still you have Dusk... actually no, that might be misconstrued.

*kisses Slayer on cheek*

You don't mind me flirting slightly with you? I know you're not gay, but I'm willing to try...
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Post by Slayer Noir Sun Apr 29, 2012 1:23 am

I'm fine with it. I'm not one of those arseholes that thinks everyone needs to be like they are. You needn't fear me disapproving.

I'm just surprised there are so many of you Tongue
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Post by The Empty Lord Sun Apr 29, 2012 2:01 am

I'm a variation of don't ask, don't tell. Wink

Also, I'm not sure I'd classify that as flirting. Although maybe that's just because I had a mate in college who did that sort of stuff, and another in my classes at university: in real life it didn't come across flirty, so I read it equally not.
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Post by Slayer Noir Sun Apr 29, 2012 2:05 am

Flirting or not, it really doesn't bother me
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Post by Duskcurse Sun Apr 29, 2012 2:48 am

Slayer Noir wrote:Seriously, am I the only straight guy here? Shocked



No you are not, I am just like you, but I am a bit more emotional than I should be
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Post by MorbiusMonster Sun Apr 29, 2012 3:05 am

Am I getting the impression that the two of you are starting to feel left out, because you're not gay?
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Post by Slayer Noir Sun Apr 29, 2012 3:08 am

Nah. Don't worry about it.
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Post by MorbiusMonster Sun Apr 29, 2012 3:22 am

I still find it difficult to talk about, it's my family I find it hard breaking it to. I find I cannot actually say it, even in text form. When they say it's just a phase, I have to confirm it isn't. I still have yet to come out to them.

I have to tell myself, this is how I've ALWAYS felt, that even as a kid, the person who always came round to see me wasn't just that, I invited him round because I had a crush on him and had often dreamt of actually being intimate with him, eventhough he was straight. When I see two naked persons, it's the male I am drawn to as the compatible figure, not the female (for reasons unknown I have a thing about going near breasts or the lower regions). I have to think of three people who were gay to help me boost my confidence; I choose Oscar Wilde, Alan Turing and Stephen Fry.

It's not simply a matter of simply saying "I'm gay", it's showing that I have always been gay.
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Post by MorbiusMonster Sun Apr 29, 2012 6:10 am

I managed to come out to my family.
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Post by Duskcurse Sun Apr 29, 2012 6:14 am

And, how was their reaction?
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Post by MorbiusMonster Sun Apr 29, 2012 6:48 am

My mum was accepting. I explained it to her and she came to accept it. I think she was just pleased for me to finally pluck up the courage to come out.

I'm going to find myself a gay pride band or something similar.
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Post by Duskcurse Sun Apr 29, 2012 6:53 am

Tat's great Morbius, I am glad that your family accepts you Smile
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Post by The Empty Lord Sun Apr 29, 2012 7:36 am

I hate the whole gay pride scene.
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Post by MorbiusMonster Sun Apr 29, 2012 7:56 am

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I decided that I would give Giovanni a gay pride scarf to add to the effect. I've got no shame in being gay, it is something definitive, so I plan to get a gay pride band or something in future.


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Post by MorbiusMonster Sun Apr 29, 2012 8:03 am

3mptylord wrote:I hate the whole gay pride scene.

Why's that?
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Post by The Empty Lord Sun Apr 29, 2012 8:47 am

It find it pretentious and over the top. Our generation virtually accepts gay as nothing out of the ordinary, and most people who are still against it will never change. I digress America still has issues regarding equal rights, but in the UK we can already do everything. But as for equal rights, I don't see how parading with pink short-shorts with rainbows all over your body achieves that.

Also, on a more philosophical level, I reverse pride for things I've achieved. I didn't achieve things I was born as. I'm happy with being gay, but it's not something to feel pride in.
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Post by MorbiusMonster Sun Apr 29, 2012 8:50 am

I suppose Gay Pride is more to do with the personal hurdles a person may have overcome in finding themselves. Some people have greater personal risk on coming out, so they feel proud to have achieved, to them, a great personal goal.

I'll get either a wristband or a scarf.
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Post by Dragon78114 Sun Apr 29, 2012 9:27 am

get a wristband. I had one then lost mine. lol

3mpty is right that there are those in America who still hate on the gays like crazy. I came out of my school with ease (I go to an arts/science magnet...with four openly gay teachers and with the GSA by far the largest group) because of the liberal atmosphere despite living in the bible belt. But go to the school further in town and there are only two openly gay students with a population of over 4000...different subject.

However, in America, I think without so much pride over our personal accomplishments, America is getting better (Although the conservatives are still trying as hard as possible to win, the positive movement is still gaining momentum). I believe Obama (if he gets reelected) would say he approves of gay rights, unlike now because he is trying to wind the election.
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Post by The Empty Lord Sun Apr 29, 2012 10:36 am

MorbiusMonster wrote:I suppose Gay Pride is more to do with the personal hurdles a person may have overcome in finding themselves. Some people have greater personal risk on coming out, so they feel proud to have achieved, to them, a great personal goal.

I'll get either a wristband or a scarf.

But why can't the personal hurdle just be telling your parents? Or getting your friends to watch a gay-romance film, rather than hetero. Or... well, anything that represents a personal hurdle. Why does it have to be subjecting yourself to a stereotype that is frankly why a lot of people have an issue with coming out?
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Post by Dragon78114 Sun Apr 29, 2012 10:47 am

well being out is like willingly overcoming a social struggle and the idea is to be proud of yourself. Telling others your gay builds confidence and who should care what the other thinks anyway.

It does add to the stereotype, but must he specifically obey it? Unless he craves the attention he'll do. Wearing a rainbow wristband doesn't fit in to the stereotype at all.
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Post by The Empty Lord Sun Apr 29, 2012 11:23 am

No, that bit is fine. I prefer the purple triangle. Just 'cause I like purple. Pleased

I suppose you're right on what the pride is all about. My attitude is probably down to where I grew up... I've never had to deal with any of the issues, so there's no sense of accomplishment. It's what I am, not who I am.
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Post by Dragon78114 Sun Apr 29, 2012 3:53 pm

"It's what I am, not who I am."

I've been told the opposite all my life. "Its who you are, not what you are."

Don't know what I mean? Come to America. Go to the Deep South. Stay for a week or two and when you come back to England, you'll realize what the hell is going on. Oh, and say hello to the Westboro Baptist Church if you run into one of their "protests." Wink

With that crazy mess, yeah, it takes guts.
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