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Post by Dragon78114 Mon Jan 10, 2011 4:40 am

How do you think a third world war might start? Tongue

Well, now that the Cold War is over, Russia is not a threat anymore. I think that this time the United States might be one of main perpetrators of a possible future world war. Of course nuclear weapons will be used, but seriously will be used. Historians have predicted that if there were a third World War, then it would be started in space.
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Post by Dark Avorian Mon Jan 10, 2011 4:42 am

It'll start in asia, africa and south america, blossoming outward.
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Post by Dragon78114 Mon Jan 10, 2011 4:56 am

I honestly feel that after the situation in the Middle East is over, it might occur. The reason it might start because of the Islamic countries whose governments are so bent on preventing democracy from spreading sparking a conflict with those wanting to live in one.

And of course the western world must support the people wanting democracy. I feel that the United States, being the foremost fighter, since we were to get in this mess altogether anyway.
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Post by The Empty Lord Mon Jan 10, 2011 9:07 am

I reckon it won't start, it'll just be over. Smile
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Post by Dragon78114 Mon Jan 10, 2011 10:06 am

yeah, because when everyone blows each other up, there will be no one left. Grin
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Post by Gladzosaurus Rex Mon Jan 10, 2011 10:53 am

I think it'll start as a result of us impressing our standards, morals and values on the rest of the world and that we'll fight the fourth with sticks and stones.
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Post by Dragon78114 Mon Jan 10, 2011 5:20 pm

Gladzosaurus Rex wrote:I think it'll start as a result of us impressing our standards, morals and values on the rest of the world and that we'll fight the fourth with sticks and stones.

Amen brother, amen!!!

You just said the WORD of the LORD! XD
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Post by The Empty Lord Mon Jan 10, 2011 8:28 pm

That was the word of Einstein? Tongue

I don't reckon we'll fight the fourth world war. Smile
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Post by Zectiox Mon Jan 10, 2011 11:41 pm

well.. when the fuel is gone we need new source for our industry.. (the idea behind the game: Fuel of War )
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Post by Ruy112 Tue Jan 11, 2011 12:54 am

Metal gear Solid... War is very profitable, and an excellent tool for maintaining political control...
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Post by Zectiox Tue Jan 11, 2011 1:18 am

paintball warIII?? everynation is giving out army of paintballsoldiers... fun but painfull war.. Tongue
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Post by Dragon78114 Tue Jan 11, 2011 3:59 am

Ruy112 wrote:Metal gear Solid... War is very profitable, and an excellent tool for maintaining political control...

except this current war has helped cause the 1.4 trillion debt in our countries...

Earlier this year the gov't approved over an 890 million defense spending budget.

This has ed to instability in this country.

Look at Vietnam, our gov't was almost completely racked near the end.

But then you could argue that our gov't became stronger after WWII, but then look at the Cold War; paranoia ravaging the institution.
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Post by MorbiusMonster Tue Jan 11, 2011 6:45 am

War is what happens when we let the trivial become too distracting. When we obsess over something that is seen as meaningless in a changing world.

Religion, diversity, lifestyle and handicaps. By looking too much, we drive ourselves to madness believing it too imperfect.
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Post by Dark Avorian Tue Jan 11, 2011 8:35 am

For some wars yes, but are you suggesting we shouldn'ttake up arms against murdering genocidal maniacs.
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Post by MorbiusMonster Tue Jan 11, 2011 6:37 pm

Not at all.
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Post by The Empty Lord Tue Jan 11, 2011 9:04 pm

You are pretty much said that we should not quarrel over a difference in opinion. A genocidal maniac has a purpose to their being, a "meaningless" triviality as you put it; but law enforcement is no different, it's only a meaningless triviality that they fight to defend.

Whether it's the Bible, the Lawbook or Liberty... they are all just ideas, and you said we shouldn't waste our time on them because they distract us from the bigger picture. What is that bigger picture? This sounds like a "greater good" complex... everyone else's ideals are meaningless because they aren't yours.

Someone's ideal has to be enforced otherwise there would be anarchy. Just because it's not an ideal you agree with doesn't make it meaningless - there has to be a greater good and humanity has spent thousands of years building trying to come to a consensus.
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Post by MorbiusMonster Wed Jan 12, 2011 1:01 am

This war on terror is essentially one thing where people have chosen to let something become an obsession. One side has become overly dominant with money, and tries to change a world that doesn't always welcome it, the other side is that of simpler folk who have a fragmented country created by corrupt politicians and religion has been their only way out, but equally as corrupt powers have interpreted it to their own destructive will.

So which side is worse, the radical traditionalist or the dominating modernist? There's only way to find out...
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Post by Dragon78114 Wed Jan 12, 2011 7:17 am

I say the dominating modernist! Tongue

In my opinion, this war currently is very similar to the Cold War...or any other international problem. I feel we've grown too cocky to realize this and we'll wind up loosing the war.

Now Morbius, do you think this situation could arise in another third world war, or is that the world is already in a war? Tongue

EDIT: Morbius was correct in the fact that the US gets invovled in many issues it doesn't need to get involved with, but gets involved with anyway because we're powerful, we're arrogant, and our ideas are strong (and we're controlled by greed, but that's another issue altogether...or is it? Tongue). However, 3mpty is correct in a sense that these ideas aren't "trivial" because if they were considered "trivial" there would be no war to begin with and everyone will be happy to let it happen.

Religion, economy, social structures, governmental ideals, etc throughout our entire history has shaped human civilization. They are not 'simple' or 'light'. However, they are becoming more known about with the emergence of global society and continuing outdated traditions, we still wage war. Agree? Disagree? Tongue
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Post by Gladzosaurus Rex Wed Jan 12, 2011 10:32 am

Those ideas are trivial for whomever they are not his ideals. The simple fact that these are the ideals of other should not give them the rights to interfere with us.
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Post by The Empty Lord Wed Jan 12, 2011 8:42 pm

"Outdated" is subjective. As someone born and raised within the First World, I feel equality, democracy and global-social society are meritable ways of life... but I was born and raised to believe that was the case. Whose to say everyone deserves equality? Even in the animal kingdom there's social hierarchies. Why should the people govern the people? People don't know how to run a country.

Meh.
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Post by MorbiusMonster Thu Jan 13, 2011 12:55 am

The class system exists, according to Reginald D Hunter, because Britain is absolutely crap at racism. If anything, it's probably one of the more discriminant human division systems we've ever devised.

All it enforces is that by simply having something as common or vulgar as money or assets automatically ranks you higher than a fellow human being that doesn't. Have you ever met a poor politician?
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Post by Gladzosaurus Rex Thu Jan 13, 2011 1:35 am

Social stratification is the sole reason we've progressed beyond bands of hunter-gatherers in the first place.
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Post by The Empty Lord Thu Jan 13, 2011 3:42 am

I always though the UK wasn't racist enough. Our "PC" is over-sensitive.
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Post by MorbiusMonster Thu Jan 13, 2011 4:14 am

Sigh, they ban phrases and actions that offend people who know they're being abused, but so many phrases that are more offensive are still very widely used that are directed at people who aren't fully aware.
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Post by Dark Avorian Thu Jan 13, 2011 9:06 am

I"m sorry. But the idea that money is common and vulgar is just...absolute and total bullshit. Maybe to you it is, but I think it's pretty f*cking ridiculous to call the one thing we humans give a consistent value to, vulgar.
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