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Homecoming Apocalypse Discussion
by The Empty Lord Wed Jul 01, 2009 9:00 am
First topic message reminder :
Each guardian within the quest is to be treated as a miniquest in itself, not merely a task within a quest. Storylines and such may be miniquest specific. Such as Malak, the creature you fight my not actually be the Guardian; combat isn't even necessary, as with Raunton.
Jaldraocht, the Desert Beacon
• Blood, guarded by Malak the Vampire. || Leaches health.
• Shadow, guarded by Damis the Shade. || Zaps attack skill.
• Ice, guarded by Kamil the Knight. || Freezes target.
• Smoke, guarded by Fareed the Warrior. || Poisons target.
• Illusory, guarded by Adyna the Harlequin. || Conjures false targets.
• Ash, guarded by Dherok the UNDECIDED. || Wilderness || Zaps defence skill.
• Moss, guarded by Raunton the Snake-tongue. || Draynor || Decays food.
• Occlusive, guarded by Adyna the Harlequin. || UNDECIDED || Disorientates target.
• Bark, guarded by Colossus the Ent. || Unknown || Splinters target.
• Gust, guarded by Ragnos the Dragon. || Crandor || Conjures projectile shield.
• Bone, guarded by Xercus the Lycan. || UNDECIDED || Leaches run-energy.
• Venom, guarded by Weaver the Cryptspider. || Wilderness || Diseases target.
• Tar, guarded by Ramesh the Tarbeast. || Dorgesh'kaan || Slows target.
• Magma, guarded by Zenerka the Sorceress. || Karamja || Burns target.
• Facade, guarded by Adyna the Harlequin. || UNDECIDED || Conjures a proximity shield.
• Miasmic, guarded by Zuriel the Warlock. || UNDECIDED || Zaps attack speed.
• Mud, guarded by Arandar. || Arandar || Zaps strength skill.
• Fog, guarded by Thrip the Banshee. || Mort Myre || Blinds target.
• Thorn, guarded by Eirwyn the Songstress. || Tirannwn || Entangles target.
• Static, guarded by Thorg the Giant. || Taverly || Conjures a conductor/statics the target.
• Flesh, guarded by Neurosha the Fleshling. || Varrock || Zaps constitution.
• Soul, guarded by UNDECIDED. || UNDECIDED || Leaches prayer points.
• Sand, guarded by Yantos the Strykewurm. || Kharidian Desert || Stalls target.
• Mind, guarded by Adyna the Harlequin. || UNDECIDED || Aggravates target.
• Stone, guarded by Drystan the Fallen King. || UNDECIDED || Conjures melee shield.
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Rambling;
Some of the planning on Adyna the Harlequin
Ancient Spellbook
Homecoming ApocalypseMany lives were spent during the war erasing Him from memory; desecrating His name and burning the remnants.
Stories from the time before Guthix speak of an Age of Darkness and that a matrix that was constructed to conceal the shadows; to imprison them and the filth that dwelt within. Though the matrix has remained sealed since, the feuding lords would not risk otherwise. And so efforts were made to conceal the matrix and prevent the empty rising. Keys scattered. Locks disguised. The shadows would forever be His prison.
But more than the likes of the light dwell within the unblinking darkness.
Each guardian within the quest is to be treated as a miniquest in itself, not merely a task within a quest. Storylines and such may be miniquest specific. Such as Malak, the creature you fight my not actually be the Guardian; combat isn't even necessary, as with Raunton.
Jaldraocht, the Desert Beacon
• Blood, guarded by Malak the Vampire. || Leaches health.
• Shadow, guarded by Damis the Shade. || Zaps attack skill.
• Ice, guarded by Kamil the Knight. || Freezes target.
• Smoke, guarded by Fareed the Warrior. || Poisons target.
• Illusory, guarded by Adyna the Harlequin. || Conjures false targets.
• Ash, guarded by Dherok the UNDECIDED. || Wilderness || Zaps defence skill.
• Moss, guarded by Raunton the Snake-tongue. || Draynor || Decays food.
• Occlusive, guarded by Adyna the Harlequin. || UNDECIDED || Disorientates target.
• Bark, guarded by Colossus the Ent. || Unknown || Splinters target.
• Gust, guarded by Ragnos the Dragon. || Crandor || Conjures projectile shield.
• Bone, guarded by Xercus the Lycan. || UNDECIDED || Leaches run-energy.
• Venom, guarded by Weaver the Cryptspider. || Wilderness || Diseases target.
• Tar, guarded by Ramesh the Tarbeast. || Dorgesh'kaan || Slows target.
• Magma, guarded by Zenerka the Sorceress. || Karamja || Burns target.
• Facade, guarded by Adyna the Harlequin. || UNDECIDED || Conjures a proximity shield.
• Miasmic, guarded by Zuriel the Warlock. || UNDECIDED || Zaps attack speed.
• Mud, guarded by Arandar. || Arandar || Zaps strength skill.
• Fog, guarded by Thrip the Banshee. || Mort Myre || Blinds target.
• Thorn, guarded by Eirwyn the Songstress. || Tirannwn || Entangles target.
• Static, guarded by Thorg the Giant. || Taverly || Conjures a conductor/statics the target.
• Flesh, guarded by Neurosha the Fleshling. || Varrock || Zaps constitution.
• Soul, guarded by UNDECIDED. || UNDECIDED || Leaches prayer points.
• Sand, guarded by Yantos the Strykewurm. || Kharidian Desert || Stalls target.
• Mind, guarded by Adyna the Harlequin. || UNDECIDED || Aggravates target.
• Stone, guarded by Drystan the Fallen King. || UNDECIDED || Conjures melee shield.
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- Status effects (all would have a screen border to graphically represent it):
- Freeze: binds the afflicted.
Poison: damages the afflicted per second.
Blind: obscures afflicted's screen.
Splinter: afflicted's attacks recoil.
Disease: zaps afflicted's skills.
Slow: afflicted is halted, then slowed.
Burn: damages the afflicted per action.
Disorientate: afflicted's movement is randomized.
Entangle: afflicted is halted, then damages the afflicted whilst moving.
Conductor/Static: afflicted's defensive stats are reduced/afflict's foes receive damage multipler.
Stall: afflicted is halted periodically.
Aggravation: afflicted attracts recurve damage.
Rambling;
- Spoiler:
- The miniquests as a whole make up six chapters; the conclusion to Desert Treasure, the four beacons, and an ultimatum.
In each of the four beacon chapters there will be a particularly difficult boss and a legendary item (and, possibly, a curse spell - but they may just all be unlocked at the end).
Thorg's Axe, melee weapon.
Robert's Strongbow, ranged weapon.
Dragonhead Gauntlets, multi-class weapon (lol, the guantless aren't armour).
So, do we have armour? Or a magic weapon? Magic does kinda have the whole spellbook... the only other thing left really is prayer, defence and summoning.
I mean, we could have several new familiars based on the enemies... sandworms ftw? So they're covered. We could make the beacons recharge prayer with a 50% boost (since they were originally an entrance to the gods' guild, we might as well still make them godly). All that's really left now is defence. But which class? Maybe Magic, since Melee and Ranged have god-armour for the old gods; "Ancient Robes", to match the Ancient Staff. That way, it's magic and defence! And I think the difficulty of this quest matches the difficulty to obtain Bandos' and Armadyl's... kinda.
The Dragonhead Guantlets is two-handed weapon. Their design is of two Dragonheads... only of dragons more similar to Draco from Dragonheart (the film; the shape is less slender/snake-like... and more bulky). These would be like huge caricature fists! The melee attack is obvious; the ranged attack has it spit ash; and the magic attack fires small bursts of dragonfire (basically a more yellow fire blast/wave).Requires level 70-90 in all classes, and is like the Salamander (only better).
Fog Robes (Magic and Defense, Fog Guardian)
Dragonhead Gauntlets (universal weapon, Ash Guardian)
Thorg's Axe (melee weapon, Lightning Guardian)
Robert's Strongbow (ranged weapon, Gust Guardian)
Spells... all of them (magic weapon, All Guardians)
Familiars, a few new ones. (summoning, Specific Guardians)
Prayer boost at beacons (prayer, Quest Completion)
Some of the planning on Adyna the Harlequin
- Spoiler:
- She could create a duplicate version of Brimhaven dungeon, only, magical. And instead of chase the ticket, chase Adyna.
Then a chamber of mirrors, only the reflections in the mirrors are somewhat alive. In that, if you try to walk through, ouch! Even if the reflection is of you! The reflections should also beckon you, like; "Here, come this way!"
The final fight would be direct, only, as well as any other attacks, she'll make use of the Illusory curse. She will only use it periodically, but it has a somewhat altered effect to that which players will be able to use. When Adyna uses Illusory, she stops attacking. All her duplicates will swarm you, like in usual multi-combat, including Adyna, all appearing to be attacking you... but you'll receive no damage. If coding must, you'll have loads of 0 splashes, else, it'd be invisible nothing (this is so it's still treated as combat). When you select one of the replicas, or the real, as a target, it will retaliate and do real damage. If you choose the real Adyna, all replicas disappear, if not, only that copy does. The spell wears off itself after about 30 seconds.
With the player version of the spell, the replicas are incapable of damage entirely. If you attack a clone, it vanishes, wasting the attack (since RuneScape uses a turn-based combat system). The user of the illusory spell can either peg it, or stay and fight. Now normally, the highest hitting target attracts the auto-retaliate feature; so you'd pick out the caster if he stayed. However, Illusory's fake attacks trick the system into thinking they are all hitting random high-damage (though
you'll lose no health). So your player would randomly shift around attacking random ones, never the caster.
Ancient Spellbook
- Spoiler:
You may only have two of the four chapters open at any one time. When
you pray at ones respective altar, you will be given the choice as to
which you wish to replace. The teleports and curses are open exempt to
any chapter, though the curses are PVP only (excluding Castle Wars and
Duel Arena).
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_#__09_10_11_12_13_14_15_16__#_
_#__17_18_19_20_21_22_23_24__#_
_#__25_26_27_28_29_30_31_32__#_
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Segment one contains the battle spells.
Segment two contains the teleportation spells.
Segment three contains the curse spells. PVP only (not PVP-world only, there's a difference).
You can reposition a segment by dragging it's divider bar (up or down).
X1 orders the spells by element.
X2 orders the spells by level.
All five chapters are graded between 1 and 5; and when the player chooses their chapters, the spells will be alternated, such as; Smoke, Ash, Shadow, Sand, Blood, Stone, Ice, Bone, etc. Aside from spells in the lowest and highest grade, all spells would have two possible levels (depending on which chapter they are paired with).
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Re: Homecoming Apocalypse Discussion
by Blaze FF8 Thu Aug 06, 2009 9:03 am
Thanks. And how about the beginning and end of this section? is there a shared trait between the sections at any point?
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Re: Homecoming Apocalypse Discussion
by The Empty Lord Thu Aug 06, 2009 9:51 am
We're making the mirrors more important to the quest than they were in the previous quest - you actually need to look into them to know where to go, however ambiguous the image is. The problem with Thorg is that there isn't something players can relate to in the clouds, I very much doubt many remember their fight with Glod. At the moment our only way up there is the beanstalk... which we cut down, if I remember. So... what you see in the mirror still needs to be decided, unless there is some sort of quest series in the clouds prior for us to see. It's possible we meet Thorg prior to knowing he's a guardian - he can be an antagonist, we don't have to suddenly kill him in cold blood. *shrugs*
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Re: Homecoming Apocalypse Discussion
by Blaze FF8 Thu Aug 06, 2009 10:08 am
How would it be in the mirror showed a birds-eye view over Taverlly? Perhaps with clouds drifting past it as if we're viewing Taverlly from above them.
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Re: Homecoming Apocalypse Discussion
by The Empty Lord Thu Aug 06, 2009 10:10 am
That's what you have to decide! 
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Re: Homecoming Apocalypse Discussion
by Blaze FF8 Thu Aug 06, 2009 10:14 am
I think i'll stick with that then. 
My Next challenge; how would we get up there? .......I'll give it some thought.
My Next challenge; how would we get up there? .......I'll give it some thought.
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Re: Homecoming Apocalypse Discussion
by Dark Avorian Thu Aug 06, 2009 10:41 am
Epic agility through top branches of the Grand tree...
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Re: Homecoming Apocalypse Discussion
by Blaze FF8 Thu Aug 06, 2009 9:26 pm
The area is directly above Taverly, Dark. Jumping through the Grand Tree wouldnt amount to much. 
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Re: Homecoming Apocalypse Discussion
by Dark Avorian Thu Aug 06, 2009 9:31 pm
Well then...gnome glider from white wolf...who knows what you'll have to do to convince the gnome...
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Re: Homecoming Apocalypse Discussion
by Ruy112 Fri Aug 07, 2009 3:16 am
Shouldn't one of the bosses just be good old fashioned bad-ass strong?
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Re: Homecoming Apocalypse Discussion
by Dark Avorian Fri Aug 07, 2009 3:21 am
yeah...probably
thats what the mud pedestal will be
thats what the mud pedestal will be
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Re: Homecoming Apocalypse Discussion
by Ruy112 Fri Aug 07, 2009 3:38 am
I am talking Jad strength. Range and Mage that hits 70+ Melee that can one hit and disables prayer for 5 seconds. Just strong...
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Re: Homecoming Apocalypse Discussion
by Blaze FF8 Fri Aug 07, 2009 3:39 am
Jad strength's a bit extreme for a quest-boss wouldnt you say?
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Re: Homecoming Apocalypse Discussion
by Dark Avorian Fri Aug 07, 2009 3:39 am
Lawzeaus strength might be fun though...
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Re: Homecoming Apocalypse Discussion
by Ruy112 Fri Aug 07, 2009 3:39 am
Why? Jad can be beaten, after 60 levels of monsters, we just take those 60 levels and add to Jad.
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Re: Homecoming Apocalypse Discussion
by Dark Avorian Fri Aug 07, 2009 3:40 am
No...quest cape shouldn't require you to defeat something that hard...
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Re: Homecoming Apocalypse Discussion
by Ruy112 Fri Aug 07, 2009 3:43 am
Why not? Prayer Switching, and keep distance...
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Re: Homecoming Apocalypse Discussion
by Blaze FF8 Fri Aug 07, 2009 3:53 am
The thing about secret bosses like Jad is that they should never have to share strength with a necessary opponent. Lord knows it ruined KBD's reputation as a boss.
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Re: Homecoming Apocalypse Discussion
by Ruy112 Fri Aug 07, 2009 4:01 am
Okay, I just used Jad for his approximate power. Could be stronger...
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Re: Homecoming Apocalypse Discussion
by Blaze FF8 Fri Aug 07, 2009 4:11 am
Thats... not what I meant. I meant the boss here should be weaker than Jad. When a boss in the main game is stronger than a secret boss, that s-boss becomes less popular. Personnaly, i dont think that should happen to Jad, not at this point anyway.
I meant the boss here should be weaker than Jad. When a boss in the main game is stronger than a secret boss, that s-boss becomes less popular. Personnaly, i dont think that should happen to Jad, not at this point anyway.
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Re: Homecoming Apocalypse Discussion
by Ruy112 Fri Aug 07, 2009 4:12 am
Okay, we make it weaker, but harder then...
On a side note: Venom should have the Virus effect (Backwards posion) and Thorn should have it's new.
On a side note: Venom should have the Virus effect (Backwards posion) and Thorn should have it's new.
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Re: Homecoming Apocalypse Discussion
by The Empty Lord Fri Aug 07, 2009 7:46 am
Tbh honest, Jad isn't that strong. The only reason why Jad is hard is because you've already exhausted your supplies by the time your reach him - and it's not like you can just take full prayer pots because you can't protect from multiple attack styles, meaning you have to use food, and god knows that doesn't last long. Having a boss who is just Jad, without all the extras, wouldn't be ridiculously hard or undermine Jad. It seems the boss isn't actually what's hard any more - it's the fact you're nearly empty when you get to them (GWD, Jad, etc).
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Re: Homecoming Apocalypse Discussion
by Dark Avorian Fri Aug 07, 2009 8:20 am
Look...I do not want to have to face a Jad hardness monster for my quest cape
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Re: Homecoming Apocalypse Discussion
by Blaze FF8 Fri Aug 07, 2009 8:31 am
Secret Bosses are always great, but when the boss itself is the challenge its much better, especialy when it can pwn you on its own.
The Corp Beast for example.
or the secret boss im desinging for Zavionce in the future, no reinforcements or record-breaking cb-lvls for him! Just new and gimmicky gambits.
The Corp Beast for example.
or the secret boss im desinging for Zavionce in the future, no reinforcements or record-breaking cb-lvls for him! Just new and gimmicky gambits.
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Re: Homecoming Apocalypse Discussion
by The Empty Lord Fri Aug 07, 2009 9:01 am
Dark, why do you object to a high level in a master of quests? We're concentrating highly on skills and tactic, but some players like button gridding combat - we should at least do them the honour of one monster, and it would be fun to kick that Dream Mentor beast's ass for the spot as Quest's Strongest Monster. 
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Re: Homecoming Apocalypse Discussion
by The Empty Lord Fri Aug 07, 2009 9:37 am
Perhaps these could be used as inspiration for the new ancient spells.One description I read (written by a Fremennik who knew not what he was actually witnessing), referred to the skies "dripping with venom and fire" and the ground "twisting into grotesque forms with mouths that chewed at the roots of trees that bled".
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