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Post by The Empty Lord Wed Jul 01, 2009 9:00 am

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Homecoming Apocalypse
Many lives were spent during the war erasing Him from memory; desecrating His name and burning the remnants.

Stories from the time before Guthix speak of an Age of Darkness and that a matrix that was constructed to conceal the shadows; to imprison them and the filth that dwelt within. Though the matrix has remained sealed since, the feuding lords would not risk otherwise. And so efforts were made to conceal the matrix and prevent the empty rising. Keys scattered. Locks disguised. The shadows would forever be His prison.

But more than the likes of the light dwell within the unblinking darkness.

Each guardian within the quest is to be treated as a miniquest in itself, not merely a task within a quest. Storylines and such may be miniquest specific. Such as Malak, the creature you fight my not actually be the Guardian; combat isn't even necessary, as with Raunton.

Jaldraocht, the Desert Beacon
Blood, guarded by Malak the Vampire. || Leaches health.
Shadow, guarded by Damis the Shade. || Zaps attack skill.
Ice, guarded by Kamil the Knight. || Freezes target.
Smoke, guarded by Fareed the Warrior. || Poisons target.
• Illusory, guarded by Adyna the Harlequin. || Conjures false targets.

• Ash, guarded by Dherok the UNDECIDED. || Wilderness || Zaps defence skill.
• Moss, guarded by Raunton the Snake-tongue. || Draynor || Decays food.
• Occlusive, guarded by Adyna the Harlequin. || UNDECIDED || Disorientates target.
• Bark, guarded by Colossus the Ent. || Unknown || Splinters target.
Gust, guarded by Ragnos the Dragon. || Crandor || Conjures projectile shield.

Bone, guarded by Xercus the Lycan. || UNDECIDED || Leaches run-energy.
• Venom, guarded by Weaver the Cryptspider. || Wilderness || Diseases target.
• Tar, guarded by Ramesh the Tarbeast. || Dorgesh'kaan || Slows target.
Magma, guarded by Zenerka the Sorceress. || Karamja || Burns target.
• Facade, guarded by Adyna the Harlequin. || UNDECIDED || Conjures a proximity shield.

Miasmic, guarded by Zuriel the Warlock. || UNDECIDED || Zaps attack speed.
Mud, guarded by Arandar. || Arandar || Zaps strength skill.
Fog, guarded by Thrip the Banshee. || Mort Myre || Blinds target.
Thorn, guarded by Eirwyn the Songstress. || Tirannwn || Entangles target.
Static, guarded by Thorg the Giant. || Taverly || Conjures a conductor/statics the target.

Flesh, guarded by Neurosha the Fleshling. || Varrock || Zaps constitution.
• Soul, guarded by UNDECIDED. || UNDECIDED || Leaches prayer points.
• Sand, guarded by Yantos the Strykewurm. || Kharidian Desert || Stalls target.
• Mind, guarded by Adyna the Harlequin. || UNDECIDED || Aggravates target.
Stone, guarded by Drystan the Fallen King. || UNDECIDED || Conjures melee shield.

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Post by The Empty Lord Sun Mar 27, 2011 2:07 am

We have no disease diamond. Sigh

Venom's effect inflicts disease, though.

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Post by Handeath Mon Mar 28, 2011 5:08 am

We still need to think of the Soul Diamond. Maybe we head to the Spirit World as seen in the Summer Duology?
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Post by Duskcurse Mon Mar 28, 2011 5:28 am

Yay, I take ssoul diamond
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Post by Ruy112 Mon Mar 28, 2011 6:31 am

I'm not very keen on your approach I must say...
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Post by The Empty Lord Mon Mar 28, 2011 10:18 am

Handeath wrote:We still need to think of the Soul Diamond. Maybe we head to the Spirit World as seen in the Summer Duology?

AMG! Duology! Is that a word? It makes sense even having never heard it, and I've longed for such a word in previous circumstances! I honestly don't know why I've never heard it before... but there's me using words like "series" and "saga" to describe two films. Tongue

Yeah, that could work.

We need to work duality into it. If the guardian is within the Spirit Realm, there needs to be some reverse of them in the physical realm. Ooh, this one could be interesting. We could have two guardians! Perhaps only requiring you to fight one, or partially fight both? The Angel, whom aids spirits pass on; and the Hitman, whom consumes the entrap of souls of the living.
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Post by Handeath Mon Mar 28, 2011 10:54 am

Blaze used "duology" once, I looked it up, and its a new word! Rejoice!

Maybe a Revenant Guardian! The guardian is a spirit in the human world, but human in th spirit world. Maybe we have to ally ourself with it in the spirit world, and fight it in the real world.

On a sidenote, does Adyna drop the 5th diamonds?
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Post by Duskcurse Mon Mar 28, 2011 11:09 am

I want to take the soul diamond
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Post by The Empty Lord Mon Mar 28, 2011 11:26 am

I'm a little apprehensive. What do you have planned for it?
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Post by Duskcurse Tue Mar 29, 2011 9:10 am

I am still thinking, perphas it will involve the revenants that the soul diamond keeps them bind to this world, like it?
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Post by The Empty Lord Tue Mar 29, 2011 11:01 am

Not really, as that would mean the revenants cease to exist once the diamond has been prized.
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Post by Duskcurse Tue Mar 29, 2011 11:10 am

No, I already thought of that, after the quest, only the spirit of those who want to leave will leave, and like that obviously the most bloodthirsty will remain
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Post by The Empty Lord Fri Apr 01, 2011 11:10 am

I can't see it.

Also, I think the revenants are war-tortured souls... I don't think they'd choose to remain in torment if the curse was suddenly lifted.
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Post by Duskcurse Fri Apr 01, 2011 11:34 am

Ok, I already changed my mine I think I will use an idea of mine, the rotten phoenix
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Post by Handeath Sun Apr 03, 2011 12:57 pm

So what do you have so far?
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Post by Duskcurse Mon Apr 04, 2011 11:59 am

Well early in the god wars, there was a greedy phoenix, who thought that with the jewel he could be the most powerfull phoenix, controlling his brethren (as you know the phoenix rise from their ashes), as he thought he could controll them , sensing the powerfull magic in the jewel, he stole it from a lich who was in charge of the diamond, when the lich noticed this he cursed the phoenix on to be as rotten as his own soul, readyu to claim revenge the lich followed the phoenix, scared as he was the bird swallowed the diamond, as soon as he was killed, he revived, he then thought pretentiously "his magic didn't have effect, I am inmortal" as he finished saying this, a part of his chest fallen, revealing his heart wich was rotten, and he is now cursed to die and be forever revived always rotting a bit more, well that's
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Post by The Empty Lord Mon Apr 04, 2011 12:28 pm

I like the idea of phoenixes being wise animals, but not to a degree that they can actively scheme. Although, RuneScape exist phoenix is capable of complex speech... Neutral Pah, I'm still not a fan of greedy phoenix. It dirties my image of them being graceful. Wink

I didn't fully understand the last segment. The lich cursed the phoenix... but then? It all got messy. You need to use FULL STOPS!

I'll grant that a phoenix does seem a good choice for a Soul Diamond, given they are reborn/renewed.
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Post by Duskcurse Mon Apr 04, 2011 12:37 pm

Exactly, and think of that phoenix as the exception to the rule, and this is what happened more clearly:

THe lich enraged, mounted a dragon, and started to follow the phoenix, cursing him to be rotten as his hearth, his dragon started breathing fire, out of fear the phoenix swallowed the diamond, shortly after that, he died.

After a few hours the ashes started to raise, but as the phoenix was reforming the diamond entered the phoenix, after the phoenix revived he thought that the mage was just bloofing about the curse, but suddenly he saw something wierd, a piece of flesh was in front of him, slowly he looked at his chest, where the flesh was supposed to cover the heart, there was nothing, he could only see his own heart, but something started to happen it began to rott, the curse was started to take effect, and to this day he is still cursed to this day, each time he revives he rottens some more, cursed in eternal pain, without his death he only roths more following an eternal cicle
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Post by Duskcurse Mon Apr 04, 2011 12:57 pm

Why it's always that everyone takes an hour to answer my posts RAGE!!!!
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Post by Dragon78114 Mon Apr 04, 2011 1:06 pm

haha... you think that's long?

I haven't had someone made a real comment on my threads on the RSOF for DAYS and no one except Blaze has contributed on my discussion concerning Gielinor's Fiyre here.
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Post by Duskcurse Mon Apr 04, 2011 1:12 pm

Ok ok I just want 3mpty to critisice my history, btw check my poll
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Post by The Empty Lord Tue Apr 05, 2011 3:07 am

Duskcurse wrote:Why it's always that everyone takes an hour to answer my posts RAGE!!!!

It's nothing personal. It's called 3am; I'm tired and can't be bothered to read anything longer than a line; I'm in the middle of doing other work and so I'm primarily in Word, Flash or Photoshop rather than on the web-browser; I've got roommates who keep coming in and it's hard to concentrate on writing huge chunks of text; I'm not in my room because I'm in the kitchen or a roomie's room; I can't think of anything to say in response right now; etc. There's lots of reasons.

Duskcurse wrote:Ok ok I just want 3mpty to critisice my history, btw check my poll
Wow, if you actually meant "criticise" and not "critique", then I'm flattered. Wink

Duskcurse wrote:Exactly, and think of that phoenix as the exception to the rule, and this is what happened more clearly:

THe lich enraged, mounted a dragon, and started to follow the phoenix, cursing him to be rotten as his hearth, his dragon started breathing fire, out of fear the phoenix swallowed the diamond, shortly after that, he died.

After a few hours the ashes started to raise, but as the phoenix was reforming the diamond entered the phoenix, after the phoenix revived he thought that the mage was just bloofing about the curse, but suddenly he saw something wierd, a piece of flesh was in front of him, slowly he looked at his chest, where the flesh was supposed to cover the heart, there was nothing, he could only see his own heart, but something started to happen it began to rott, the curse was started to take effect, and to this day he is still cursed to this day, each time he revives he rottens some more, cursed in eternal pain, without his death he only roths more following an eternal cicle

I'm not really a fan. The best, non-opinion related reason I can give is that the lich was entrusted by Zamorak to safeguard the diamond - he would not have allowed the phoenix to keep it, unless it was his intention for the phoenix to guard it instead.

Also: lich? Why? The only lich we have at present in RuneScape are the mahjarrat. Zombies, skeletons, mummies, ghouls, etc, are merely mindless-- well, zombies. Where did this sole lich come from?
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Post by Duskcurse Tue Apr 05, 2011 3:48 am

Well I was thinking that the lich could have been a powerfull mage, and the power of the soul diamond revived, and yes he tried to retrieve the diamond, but the fenix swallowed it out of fear, and yes the soul diamond was entrusted to the lich by zamorak, and srry for using dragonsa it's that there aren't many flying creatures in rs
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Post by The Empty Lord Tue Apr 05, 2011 5:15 am

But then it died... and turned to ash... he could have picked up the diamond before it respawned. Tongue
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Post by Duskcurse Tue Apr 05, 2011 7:27 am

Yeah, it0s that the diamond fused with the phoenix, and as some sort of cruel joke he wanted to make the phoenix suffer, and what better guardian than an undiying creature
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Post by Handeath Tue Apr 05, 2011 11:05 am

Well, "A Pyre Need" should be a start, there's a pheonix there. Your basic story is good, a pheonix is cursed for being greedy.

I say that the original guardian was in battle near the current pheonix's lair. The pheonix, entranced by the bauble, stole it. Zamorak, learning of the pheonix's ability to continuously be reborn, imbued the bird with it's power, making it immortal. When the pheonix was to die, it found that it's body was only rotting: his flames, his soul, keeping him together and in this world.

This story is rather similar to Neurosha's. *shrugs*
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Post by The Empty Lord Tue Apr 05, 2011 11:12 am

I still dislike that a phoenix could be greedy. Wink

Also, there were no guardians before Zamorak, and it's unlikely Zamorak would ever return to a guardian - thus, he would not notice it go from the original guardian to the phoenix.

Also, purely in response to Handeath, is a phoenix not already immortal? How could Zamorak make it more immortal? Or do you mean immortal without the rebirth?
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