[P] The Forerunner

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The Forerunner
Discussion on the Forerunner, the Creators, the Builders; those who existed before the Dwallow, whose disappearance is a mystery but whose remains is a way of life.

I came across this image whilst browsing games and thought it'd be amazing if there were a couple of cities that have fallen into disarray, would provide excellent scenary and a different style of location for training.



Dark's "The Mouths of the Creators" refine clouds and transport the water via aqueducts. But yeah, discussion.

I'm sure some would be translated.

yeah during quests when examed "You cant seems to read this... wait.. no nothing"

I didn't mean by us in particular, but by cryptologists (if that's the right one).

3mptylord wrote:I didn't mean by us in particular, but by cryptologists (if that's the right one).

...or archaeologists.

Archaeologists don't decode ancient languages, do they?

I think so. The guy who translated the Rosetta Stone was an archaeologist (of course he had help from Egyptian nobility)

Ahh.

Archaeologists do, because that's how they can learn about them...but the Rosetta stone was just a lucky break, if the forerunner language doesn't resemble any known one (or the alphabet doesn't) we have no idea how to decode it.

Actually, it would probably make more sense if it was completely unknown. A species evolves their own language, the fact surviving forerunner might be around wouldn't be noticed before it's too late for it to have had any importance. Anything otherwise would imply the new races learnt to communicate by text before spoken language.

I reckon we should have Blink style transcript with the forerunner. The forerunner are having one half of a conversation, we are the other half...

Forerunner: Hello, can you hear me?
Callum: Yes.
Eoghan: It's a recording, it can't hear you.
Forerunner: Yes I can.
Callum: Huh?
Eoghan: Yeah, it's a little creepy.
Forerunner: And now you're going to say "No I'm not"...
Callum: No I'm no-- wait what?
Eoghan: Honestly, it can't hear you.
Forerunner: You need to trust me!
Callum: Hold on a second, I've heard this bit before...
Eoghan: That's because it's on loop.
Forerunner: Exactly, it's fully possible you've heard any amount of this before.
Callum: So how are you responding to what I'm saying?
Forerunner: It's complicated.
Eoghan: Okay, even I'm getting weirded out.
Forerunner: Look, you need to follow me...
Callum: But you're only a recording.
Forerunner: Just keep up.
Eoghan: Okay, if I for a moment believe that conversation just happened, what are we suppose to do now?
Callum: Aren't there relay devices scattered all over the place?
Eoghan: Yes, but wha--
Callum: The (Both:) running projection!
Callum: Exactly... we've always accepted that it's just the ghost of someone running, but what if he's leading us...
Eoghan: Okay, follow me then!

3mptylord wrote:Actually, it would probably make more sense if it was completely unknown. A species evolves their own language, the fact surviving forerunner might be around wouldn't be noticed before it's too late for it to have had any importance. Anything otherwise would imply the new races learnt to communicate by text before spoken language.

Or perhaps the dwallow already speak a language similar to the Forerunner, however, it is not known because a different system of writing is used.

Like similar grammatical structures... of course vocabulary will be much different.

I don't know; just an idea.

EDIT: Or like Dark said it: we simply won't know.

How would they know how to speak a language they would have never heard?

one of life's great coincidences!

Perhaps we just introduce that fish from the Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy?

or perhaps that could be a reasom that led to their demise. What if the Diminor actually arose near the end of the Forerunner, contrary to what the normal thought of history that the Dwallow civilization came much later than the Forerunner.

There are no known dates or dating systems- it could very well work- in Pallis and and the Diminor could easily hide it in lies and convince the normal Dwallows that is fact. Even most of the diminor, excpet for the highest leader or select few.

The evolution of language would still make modern Forerunner and ancient Forerunner very different, they may as well be different languages.

Also, I think the cataclysm would have destroyed the diminor too if they'd been around at the time.

He's saying the diminor were the cataclysm

All I got what that he's saying they were around at the time and they are lying about it... although, they wouldn't have to lie, cataclysm aside they probably couldn't confirm it either way.

well Dwallows are speaking something, Mogruls something, Diminor could talk something old and gibbrish to everyones ears. Forerunners... maybe just whsperings? you know like along with the wind. "And sometimes in the dark forest you can hear the forest talk to each other through the wind. Some say that it is the Forerunners who are whispering and not the trees.." spooky story..

The Guild of Others

yeah... Im want to be in that one


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still, forerunner language... interesting or not it something mystics

I think the Diminor and Dwallow would have the same language, or at least one that is common for both to speak.

or perhaps they each speak a different language but communicate with each other in a lingua franca.

Well it's not going to be a third language... so it's still going to be one of the two of theirs.

still Diminors or some of the diminors who works with old stuff could include some "old Language", even if it isnt that old, just another style of the language.. if you know what I mean

Or you know, having the talking something similar as Swedish, norweigian and danish, everyone is talking their own language but everyone understand each other too...

hmm idk well still good with one language, but I thought that Diminors could live somewhat.. Aside from Dwallows, and therefor they have an "older" kind of language.

Zectiox wrote:
hmm idk well still good with one language, but I thought that Diminors could live somewhat.. Aside from Dwallows, and therefor they have an "older" kind of language.

Aside from the Dwallow? Somewhat Aside?...they live in different colonies, have different social structure, and different focus...