Pokemon stuff.

First topic message reminder :

All the sprites/ pokemon from the new games have been revealed.

Ooh you're right, my bad

I ended up with a ghost hack on my Platinum version. I was trying to get eggs using an action replay so I could another eevee, because I evolved the one I had and it was male!

In the end, I accidentally created two "man-eggs". They are traces of data that are in limbo of existing and not existing. You can't remove them from your party in any way as they technically don't exist, yet can be used in battle when you have no other Pokemon, fill a space up and appear in the hall of fame. I've tried almost everything.

1. Depositing them doesn't work as they don't exist.
2. Moving them doesn't work, it only deletes the previous Pokemon.
3. Trading to another game doesn't work as they still don't exist, yet occupy a space.
4. Completing the league didn't help.
5. Catching new Pokemon to fill the void didn't help.
6. Visiting the Battle Frontier and competing in tournaments using other Pokemon didn't help.

Somehow the game will do everything it can to keep reminding me of that greivous error.

Considering how this new edition of Pokemon has a greater online community, they are going to have to completely revamp how the DS can connect online, mainly because many have found it near impossible to go online.

Unfortunately the USB connector has been discontinued in all but a few shops, making it harder to get online. However, there is a solution.

The Wii can easily connect to a wireless network and connect online. It can also transfer internet content through to the DS via the Nintendo channel. Hopefully, Nintendo may release a means in which players could connect to the internet, through the Wii as if it were the USB connector.

If they don't, then a large number of people will miss out.

A few more details have been leaked...

The first gym has a varying leader, depending on the player's choice of starter. If Grass was chosen, the type of the gym will be fire. If fire was chosen, the type of the gym will be water. If water was chosen, the type of the gym will be grass. If you have Pokabu, you may have an easier time, as that means the Pokemon will be water type and you can acquire an electric type earlier on (unless Isshu Route 3 isn't open until after the battle)

The game features two locations that are the first version exclusive regions. Black City only appears in Black version, White Forest appears only in White. From what else that has been leaked, White Forest will be home to wild Togepi, Machop, Pidgey, Happiny and Surskit.

The second gym specialises in normal types and the third gym specialises in bug types (Pokabu is at an advantage here).

N, the Team Plasma leader, will be the first Villain Team Leader in-game to acquire and use a legendary Pokemon. He uses Zekrom in Black and Reshiram in White, allowing you to fill up the Dex.

More updates to come.

serebii.net has every single bit of information that you're reporting, morbius.

And runescape.com has every update we post here to talk about. And websites about the Wheel of Time post everything i gibber happily about. Why can't he report it?

More is being leaked...

Gym four is Electric-type with the first female gym leader to specialise in Electric types.
Gym five is Ground type.
Gym six is Flying type.
Gym seven is Ice Type.

Elite Four No. 1 specialises in Ghost-types
Elite Four No. 2 specialises in Dark Types
Elite Four No. 3 specialises in Psychic Types
Elite Four No. 4 specialises in Fighting types.
The levels will increase after you obtain the National dex, and their party sizes increase from four to six.

The structure, at the moment, is unclear. All of the elite four so far have three level 48 Pokemon and one level 50 Pokemon. From what has been described, they can be challenged in a different fashion than previously done. They aren't laid out in a line, but rather in a central nexus and probably can be visited in a varying order, gradually increasing in strength as you defeat one and move onto the next.

The only information about the Champion so far is that his Pokemon are highly levelled, being 73 and 75. Details are still fuzzy.

Oh and it appears to have strong American themes, unlike the previous generations.

My opinion? Black and White appear to be the beginning of something new. It would be nicknamed "American Generation I" as well as "Generation V", because it comes across as something completely different from the previous generations we have seen. It has stronger American themes rather than the Japanese themes previously seen in other generations.

White version, due to version exclusive area of White Forest, has the largest number of version exclusives of any Pokemon game. Nearly all of the Pokemon not available in the Isshu regional Dex is available here.

Any questions?

The last gym will feature Dragon Type Pokemon. Two trainers with the same Pokemon, with the same moves and levels have been listed as the Gym Leader(s), so either one or the other may be the gym leader depending on choices made in the game or it may be a double or triple battle.

Two new Pokemon Shikijika and Mebukijika will have alternate formes change over time. These formes last about a month before changing.

Spring forme - Shikijika will have pink fur on its back and around its head. Mebukijika will have blossoms forming on its antlers, a small ruff of fur on its neck and pink spots on its back.

Summer forme - Shikijika will have green fur on its back and around its head. Mebukijika will have large amounts of green leaves on its antlers, the ruff on its neck and cuffs is absent and it has green spots on its back.

Autumn (or Fall in the US) forme - Shikijika will have orange fur on its back and around its head. Mebukijika will have large amounts of orange leaves, hanging from its antlers, the ruff of fur is present again and it has orange spots on its back.

Winter forme - Shikijika will have greyish brown fur on its back and around its neck. Mebukijika will have white antlers, the fur around its neck and cuffs is much larger and it has white spots.

Busarao will have two formes, a red stripe forme and a blue stripe forme. Both formes are featured on the games, but one will be rarer to find than the other on certain games. The red stripe forme has large, red eyes, whilst the blue strip forme has narrow, blue eyes.

Melotta, when taught ancient song, will turn from its voice forme into its step forme. The transition will also change its type from Normal + Psychic to Normal + Fighting and alter its moveset (presumably giving it more physical moves instead of special moves).

I've seen a Pokemon that changes with moon phases... like a werewolf, only it changed at Full, Half, New and Half.

You mean, first quarter, full, last quarter and new.

Interestingly, two Pokemon have been identified to evolve when traded for a specific Pokemon.

These include;
Kaburumo will evolves into Shubarugo when traded for a Chobomaki.
Chobomaki evolves into Agirudaa when traded for a Kaburumo.

Both of which are owned by the Isshu Champion. Yet again Pokabu and its evolutions are given the advantage with the Champion, as three of his Pokemon are bug type and weak against fire, while two of his other Pokemon are weak to fighting type moves.

Ultimately, it looks as if you'll have an easier playing experience with Pokabu and its evolutions at the beginning of the game. The other two evolutions will eventually improve and become more effective later on.

Here's how it may work.

First gym - Pokabu has an advantage, because the leader will select a water type, and an electric type is available early on. Tsutarja is disadvantaged, as the leader will chose a fire type and there are no water types available this early on.

Second gym - Pokabu has an advantage, because it evolves into a dual fire/fighting type.

Third gym - Pokabu has an advantage, because bug types are weak to fire types. Tsutarja will have a harder time as bug is strong against grass times.

By which point, a greater variety of Pokemon will be opened to you and your strategy would accomodate around them.

Dark Avorian wrote:And runescape.com has every update we post here to talk about. And websites about the Wheel of Time post everything i gibber happily about. Why can't he report it?

Because he's using words like "leaked". The games are out; it's not just leaked.

They have only been released in Japan so far. It's still very limited and a lot of content hasn't been revealed just yet (what with completion and all that). I just prefer saying leaked, because at the moment it seems water tight.

Because the game is so new, a lot of evidence conflicts with one another. The confirmed entries are "leaked" out of the water tight surveying process.

Okay. That actually makes sense. Sorry.

The pseudo legendary (Pokemon with the highest stats for a non-legendary) family for Generation V is the Monozu evolution line. It starts as Monozu, a Dark/Dragon type, evolves into Jiheddo at level 50 and finally Sazandra at level 64. This makes it the Pokemon with the highest minimum level required for evolution.

If you wish me to, I could do some research to compile together a team the would benefit you in the league or in certain gyms.

I don't ultimately mind which Pokemon I have in my team, provided I get a female Mijumaru and a female Zoroark.

Checking Bulbapedia, it appears some of the Pokemon sprites have changed to be contemporary with Black and White. Some have changed, but others haven't and still are contemporary with HeartGold and SoulSilver.

A recommendation...

Shibishirasu would be an adequate addition to your team. Why? It is an electric type with Levitate ability, meaning it has no natural weaknesses.

A little tip for you. Each Pokemon has a catch rate, the higher that rate, the easier it is to catch. That number is divided by 255 to give you the chances it can be caught. The type of ball will multiply that number upwards. Once you hit 1, a catch can be guaranteed.

Pokeball has x1.
Great ball has x1.5
Safari Zone ball and the Bug Competition ball have x1.5
Ultra ball has x2
Master ball has x255.

Kurt's custom Pokeballs that are available in Gold, Silver, Crystal and their respective remakes are very useful. If specific conditions are met, then some can be more effective than ultra balls.

A level ball is useful for capturing lower level Pokemon. If the player's Pokemon has a higher level then the catch ability works as follow.

Greater than 1 times, but less than double = rate x2
Greater than double, but less than four times = rate x4
Greater than four times = rate x8

From the beginning this can be useful. It is a free equivalent to an ultra ball, but it takes a day to manufacture (luckily the remakes allow multiple balls to be made).

Lure ball is more effective than a ultra ball when catching a Pokemon using a fishing rod. Rate x3

Moon ball is twice as effective as an ultra ball if you are catching a Pokemon that uses a moon stone some time during its evolution.

Heavy ball is one of the most effective of all commericially available balls, but its effect only works on anything that is over 451.5lbs in mass.
If the Pokemon has a mass of between 451.5lbs and 677.3lbs, then rate + 20
If the Pokemon has a mass of between 677.3lbs and 903.0lbs, then rate + 30.
If the Pokemon has a mass of over 903.0lbs, then rate + 40.
This is a very useful ball, particularly when dealing with legendary Pokemon. However, if the target has a mass of less than 451.5lbs, then catch rate is down by 20.

The Love Ball (not to be mistaken with the Friend ball) is four times as effective as an ultra ball when used on a Pokemon that is the same species as the one in battle, but of the opposite gender. Useful for catching breeding pairs.

The Fast ball is twice as effective as an ultra ball if the target Pokemon has a base speed of at least 100 (only in the Generation II remakes). If you want a list of what it can catch, then I'll find it for you.

The Repeat Ball is twice as effective as a great ball, when catching a Pokemon you've already caught and registered. It is less effective than a Love Ball in that respect, but less restricted.

The Timer Ball can have a maximum rate of x4, depending on when it is used in battle. The rate is determind like this, where Y is the number of turns.
Y + 10 / 10

If you're stuck in a very long battle, by the time the foe has exhausted most of its moves, this becomes more effective than an ultra ball. Its opposite counterpart, the Quick ball will only be at x4 if thrown straight away.

A Nest Ball is designed for weaker Pokemon. The formula works as follows.

40 - Target Pokemons Level / 10.

It has a maximum catch rate of 4, and a minimum of 1.

The Net ball is twice as effective as Great Ball, when catching a Water or Bug Type Pokemon.
The Dive ball is more than twice as effective as a Great Ball when thrown at a Pokemon in water.
The Dusk Ball is more than twice as effect as a Great ball when used at night or in a cave.
The Park Ball is exclusive to Pal Park and never fails.

In Generation V, the Dream Ball has become available, but its rarity is unknown. It, like the Park Ball and and Master Ball, has a catch rate of x255, so therefore doesn't fail.

However, these statistics all apply to base catch rates (the rate at which Pokemon can be caught at full HP). The rates increase depending on the ball used, the status applied to the foe and the foe's overall remaining health also come into play. Using a "catch every time" cheat will treat any ball used with a catch rate of x255.

i don't want to look back so im just gonna ask, have you mentioned EV's and IV's yet?

also a note, pokemon stopped being good for me at emerald, I am considering getting soulsilver because i like crystal, but we'll see

It is worth getting SoulSilver. It's massively improved.

From what I can tell, black/ white is actually interesting. And pokemon ethnic equality/ gray/ clear/ crimson will be better.